Oprah Winfrey turned late-night guest into late-night host on Monday, briefly commandeering Stephen Colbert's desk to ask how he's processing the looming end of his 10-year run on The Late Show. After chatting about her unfulfilled childhood dream of marrying Paul McCartney, Winfrey pivoted to Colbert's feelings about the show's upcoming finale. "Don't go Oprah on me now," Colbert quipped before physically swapping seats with the former daytime talk show host. From behind the desk, Winfrey, who noted it's been 15 years since she ended The Oprah Winfrey Show, pressed Colbert on what he's ready to "let go of" as the May 21 shutdown approaches, per Rolling Stone.
Colbert's answer: not much. "I don't want to let anything go just yet," he said, adding he retains "a white-knuckle grip on all these people who I love, who I've worked with all these years," per Entertainment Weekly. He gestured to his band, crew, and finally the studio audience. He described the audience as an unseen third participant in every interview—pure in their engagement and so essential that he sometimes stages "audiences" for tough corporate calls to keep himself honest. "I will say what I actually feel," he said. Winfrey agreed the value of an audience is far more than applause. She then closed her mini-interview by thanking Colbert "for holding the space for laughter." (CBS just revealed who will be filling Colbert's timeslot.)